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Survival rifle

Discussion in 'Weapons' started by mark wilson, May 13, 2016.

  1. lonewolf

    lonewolf Site Manager Staff Member

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    if its for small game an air rifle is sufficient.
     
  2. Phil

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    Are there any air rifles that are either spring or gas ram powered that produce over 12 FP of energy ?
     
  3. lonewolf

    lonewolf Site Manager Staff Member

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    in the UK they would be illegal without a fire arms certificate.
     
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  4. Prime

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    Many of the rifles that are made on the continent obviously comply to their own country of origins law - this means that if you buy the rifle that is made in Spain where I believe the allowed poundage for an airgun is in the 18-25ft lbs it has to have a down regulated spring put in to be sold in the UK ( sub 12ft lbs ) - You can purchase many many air rifles which deliver well over the small 12ft but you will need to obtain an FAC to have it.

    That being said the FAC air guns tend to be very pricey when compared to a 22LR Rifle - so if youve gone to the effort of obtaining a FAC in the first place I'd question why one would want a pricey powerful air gun over a conventional Firearm?,





    In answer to your original question you can obviously get an Air rifle that produces over 12ft lb. Just remember that there is a ballistic co-efficient that exists with size of projectile , is a really faster travelling 22 air pellet going to achieve your desired result?
     
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  5. Phil

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    Thanks both for info.
    I was just thinking buy a below 12 fp now and a spare spring to put in later should all go haywire and no rol remaining.
    Mainly because pellets can be stored in such small spaces.
    There would probably be a problem with the change in velocity not liking the pellets stored though.:crying::sad:
     
  6. The Fat Chef

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    A weihrauch hw80 was originally designed to be 23 ft/lbs, the spring was shortened to comply with our legislation of max 12 ft/lbs.
    If I had to buy a gun and had one choice it would be the silenced version of that.
     
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  7. The Fat Chef

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    The weihrauch hw90 is a servicable gas ram that with the right pump and adapter can be adjusted very easily although illegal to do unless you hold a fac for such a gun
     
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  8. Prime

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    I have a Fenix Cometa which I believe originates in Spain where the poundage is different upon issue.

    If only I could get an original spring for the same.....

    ;)
     
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  10. Kublai

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    Owned both the 80 & 77k most reliable air rifles I've ever owned and I've had a few. With a bit of understanding and technical ability they can be made into very efficient small game weapons. With a few pare parts put away they will be serviceable for a lifetime. Used with good quality pellets they are very accurate , I used H&N Barracuda Match 21gr
     
  11. lonewolf

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    I use Defiant .22 air rifle pellets.
     
  12. ystranc

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    I've seen a few of these duel caliber rifles over the years, often .22lr and .410 shotgun combination in an over and under configuration. Unfortunately they're unsilenced. There is nothing like a few gunshots to draw unwanted attention.
    I prefer my screw cut & silenced CZ, the main noise it creates is the thump of the bullet hitting the bunny. Accurate up to about 150m (Hornady ammo) unlike the combination barrels. The .410 is only good for small game or pigeons up to 25m Max.
    These combination rifles are a bit gimmicky and expensive but they do use 2 of the most readily available types of ammunition.